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Bruno
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iconBlacknTan:
I'm astounded that anyone on God's Green Earth would even consider, in the remotest possible terms, a lawsuit for being banned from an internet forum! It's not the real world, and I'm hopeful that everyone that partakes of those forums has a life other than the persona they portray in the cyberworld.


Oh, not for being banned. Banning is our right as site operator. It says so in the rules that you acknowledged by clicking 'ok'. However, saying why might be a huge liability.

Consider the following scenario: One member steals from another. Multiple times, multiple members. This happens a couple of times which is enough to convince us that said member is indeed a thief. We ban him. So far so good. But then we publicly say why because people are whining about banning that person. We publicly state that member X was banned because he is a thief.

X's name starts coming up in search results as being a thief and this is costing him reputation, job opportunities, money (if he is a vendor or provides a service). Keep in mind that we still don't have proof that will stand up in court. It's all hearsay, and even the people who are duped have really no leg to stand on since there are no formal contracts, and there is no real proof that X stole. Maybe every single transaction and communication attempt failed in a perfect storm of bad luck. Besides, we don't know the real names or addresses of the duped people either, and some have dropped off the forum for some time already. We have no legally valid reasons for calling someone a thief.

Now X is feeling angry at us and wants us to pay for the results of him being called a thief. Since he is a thief, he has no compuction about suing us for things that are true but very hard to prove. No matter how it turns out, it will cost us a lot of money and grief.

And this is just one example. That is why we usually don't say why people are banned, even though generally there is no liability involved. Because then we get the problem that there are only a handful of bannings where we give no reason, and those will stick out and people will say 'ooh, he must be a really bad person because they can't even say why he was banned'
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2010-12-21 13:19
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Bart Torfs (Bart)
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From: Belgium
Posts: 5001
iconMatt:


If someone thinks it's too far, let me, or the staff know.

regards,
Matt

If it wasn't slightly over the top to use Auschwitz for that scene, I would have placed it on the frontpage by now.
"Say COTI again Motherfucker!!!":D :D :D :D I've been laughing for hours. :D

Then the light shone, trumpets sounded and I got to the other side, where men shave with smiles on their faces, razors pop hairs, and a continuous choir singing «~~Keen and Smooth~~» is heard everywhere. (Matt)
2010-12-22 00:16
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Bart Torfs (Bart)
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From: Belgium
Posts: 5001
iconBlacknTan:
I'm astounded that anyone on God's Green Earth would even consider, in the remotest possible terms, a lawsuit for being banned from an internet forum! It's not the real world, and I'm hopeful that everyone that partakes of those forums has a life other than the persona they portray in the cyberworld.
This is a great resource, I have not arrived at learning my coticule, but I've made good progress, and perhaps I never would learn it without the copious volumes assembled here.
We do develop friendships on these forums... Like minded folks that we've never met that we think we could be friends with. Over years, this can develop into true friendships.
Unfortunayely, I believe it's all too true that these places can become overly large, and become unwieldy for there creators. Moderators are added.. Some with the maturity to handle the job... Many without. Some folks have a hidden, and in some cases not so hidden agenda. When money and business coincide with hobbies and creativity, the results can be predictably disasterous. Some moderators are taken with their new found power over the masses that appear to adore them. Nothing new here either... They seek the power and attention that they do not possess in their personal lives in the netherworld.
This site is different. It's a learning resource. I try not to treat it as a chatroom, although I sometimes do enjoy a bit of banter.
The other sites are great for banter, if one can agree with points that are obviously wrong by the resident "experts," whom must never be questioned under threat of immediate banishment, and generally "fly under the radar" of the ruling class. They're really exist as the current day feifdoms... Ruled by overlords that allow we serfs to exist and play at ourt own peril.

I've been around a long time... Society make rules. Some are good for us all, some are designed to make people behave like a flock of sheep. Some folks need to have their lives ruled by others, in the form of government, or an internet bulletin board facist... It's all the same, just question of scale.

I enjoy my freedoms, and the power to make decisions in my own life. I hold those rights dear, and will not cede them to any entity, no matter how much power they believe they hold over me.
I sincerely hope that others feel the same...

And BTW, I don't wear my seatbelt either...


That is a great post, sir. You've caught the spirit of this website quite well. The basic idea is to come here for support and information, and to stick around for a while, and give some of the received support and information back to those who arrived later. Fellowship is the reward. But all the ego-pampering reasons that you summed, we'll try to discourage those. If that means we have to operate on a smaller user base, that's just fine.

Kind regards,
Bart.
Then the light shone, trumpets sounded and I got to the other side, where men shave with smiles on their faces, razors pop hairs, and a continuous choir singing «~~Keen and Smooth~~» is heard everywhere. (Matt)
2010-12-22 01:11
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BlacknTan
From: United States
Posts: 176
Thanks for the kind words, Bart.

Now, if I could just improve my accuracy and speed at the keyboard so that my big, knuckledragging fingers could keep pace with my thoughts...:blush:
Better a diamond with a flaw than a polished pebble...
2010-12-22 01:52
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Chris Calvé (wdwrx)
From: Canada
Posts: 703
bwhahaha!
LOL! ...thurris.... and yellow paint! hahahaha hahaha



But... why do I feel this overwhelming urge to go comb through all my old posts and edit any reference I've made to the word "coti":D
2010-12-22 01:57
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Dr Ralfson Bwhahaha (tat2Ralfy)
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iconBlacknTan:
Thanks for the kind words, Bart.

Now, if I could just improve my accuracy and speed at the keyboard so that my big, knuckledragging fingers could keep pace with my thoughts...:blush:


What!
Your fingers are that slow!!

Bwhahahahaha

Sorry Bill :blush:

And shame on you Matt and Bart!, hahahaha thats some funny shit right there hahaha although I have seen better pictures of the SHITCA HQ...lol

Regards
Ralfson (Dr)
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Pip Pip Old Bean
2010-12-22 01:57
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Bart Torfs (Bart)
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From: Belgium
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icontat2Ralfy:

And shame on you Matt and Bart!, hahahaha thats some funny shit right there hahaha although I have seen better pictures of the SHITCA HQ...lol

:lol: Though I couldn't really compete against Matt's Tarrantino reference "Say "coti" again. Say "coti" again! I dare you! I double-dare you, motherfucker! Say "coti" one more goddamn time!":lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x88b4uL2tTo&feature=related

Jeezes, how did we end up so Off Topic in this thread???
:D

Bart.
Then the light shone, trumpets sounded and I got to the other side, where men shave with smiles on their faces, razors pop hairs, and a continuous choir singing «~~Keen and Smooth~~» is heard everywhere. (Matt)
2010-12-22 10:24
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Paul
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From: United States
Posts: 1388
iconBart:
:lol: Though I couldn't really compete against Matt's Tarrantino reference "Say "coti" again. Say "coti" again! I dare you! I double-dare you, motherfucker! Say "coti" one more goddamn time!":lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x88b4uL2tTo&feature=related

Jeezes, how did we end up so Off Topic in this thread???
:D

Bart.


When I saw it, all I could think was "Does Maurice look like a bitch?"
Paul
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2010-12-22 15:32
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Dr Ralfson Bwhahaha (tat2Ralfy)
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iconrichmondesi:
When I saw it, all I could think was "Does Maurice look like a bitch?"


Then why are y'all trying to fuck him like one?

Hahahaha
We Are All Pioneers In Our Own Right.
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Pip Pip Old Bean
2010-12-22 17:54
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hoglahoo
Posts: 28
iconBeBerlin:
Well, a nifty new feature has been built into google's advanced search, called Reading Level. I thought it might be fun to put B&B, SRP and this site side-by-side in terms of reading levels. As stated previously, some people are more interested in the less banal aspects of straight razor shaving, and prefer to read texts written by people who can convey an idea clearly, concisely, and with non-AOL punctuation.
At first I thought those were forum population graphs
2010-12-24 03:40
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Marek Bednarz (maro)
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From: Poland
Posts: 224
iconBart:
iconMatt:
If someone thinks it's too far, let me, or the staff know.
regards,
Matt

If it wasn't slightly over the top to use Auschwitz for that scene, I would have placed it on the frontpage by now.

Sorry for replying so late (everybody has probably forgotten about this thread by now) but I wasn't able to read the posts as they came during and right after X-mass/New Year break and in January I needed some time to make up for reading (well, I still do).

Getting to the point, sorry Matt, but I also think you overdid it. :O
First, by implying Robin's inclination to Nazis only due to his origin and his call for language purity.
Second, by using a de facto symbol of genocide and martyrdom (a surprising thing recalling your indignation for genocide by the king Leopold II, quoted by Bart in some other thread).

Apart from that, a reference to Pulp Fiction is hilarious. :D
“Progress comes to those who train and train; reliance on secret techniques will get you nowhere.” - Morihei Ueshiba
2011-01-16 13:29
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Matt
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From: Poland
Posts: 1047
Well, well, well.

Though I considered this case closed, if you took time to write your thoughts, I felt it would be rude to ignore this.

Let me first note, that before posting this I had a moment of serious doubt if it wouldn't be too inappropriate. Otherwise I wouldn't have written what I had in the original post. There are few places where, or people to whom I would show such a joke, certainly not the people I don't know and consider intelligent enough to go beyond "oh, what a disgrace" reaction. This forum is one of those. Robin was the first person who contacted me and his concern was not his own reaction, proving my assumption, as much as a (dis)respect to people who died there, prevailingly of Jewish origin. Incidentally, the conversation turned out to be quite personal and touching for me, as well as let me know Robin in quite a different way you would probably judge from what and how he writes in public.

As I wrote in my mail to Robin, this was meant as nothing more than a crude monty-pythonesque joke. After all, Roberto Benigni showed the camp in a pretty comic style, too. We, Poles, share the tragedy as well, especially that the camps were built in Poland (as a result, for an unknown reason American press repeatedly uses a term "Polish camps") - which makes me feel kind of more entitled for such a joke.

I learned my lesson, anyway.

kindest regards,
Matt
"Very interesting indeed :) I did something similar with cheese a while ago" - Dr Ralfson
2011-01-17 14:31
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Marek Bednarz (maro)
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From: Poland
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Hi Matt,

I have no doubt you've considered your post before sending. Yet, you asked for letting you know if you went to far so that's what I did.

As you wrote "We, Poles, share the tragedy as well..." and we're taught to be sensitive about it. And dealing with trauma via turning it into a comedy is a known method of coping with it (no, luckily for me I'm far too young WWII trauma). Maybe I'm just a bit too touchy. :-/

But you're right. The thread was closed and there's no point in rehashing it. Sorry for that.
I hope the lesson you mentioned to learn (whatever it was for you) will not stop you from playing jokes, similar to the one above included.

With warmest greetings,
Marek
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“Progress comes to those who train and train; reliance on secret techniques will get you nowhere.” - Morihei Ueshiba
2011-01-17 15:38
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DENNIS KELLY (DJKELLY)
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From: United States
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Matt, I think it took a little courage to make light of a sensitive subject and that's how I chose to take it. I think you are really one of the "good guys" on this forum. Don't change a thing. Sincerely, Denny
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2011-01-17 18:30
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Dr Ralfson Bwhahaha (tat2Ralfy)
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iconDJKELLY:
Matt, I think it took a little courage to make light of a sensitive subject and that's how I chose to take it. I think you are really one of the "good guys" on this forum. Don't change a thing....


As said from me Matt, you are perfect just as you are my friend

Regards
Ralfson (Dr)
We Are All Pioneers In Our Own Right.
The Infamous Coticule Crew
Pip Pip Old Bean
2011-01-17 20:20