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BlacknTan
From: United States
Posts: 176
A hearty thank you to Gary and Joe for yet another great tutorial..

I don't know if Gary is aware, but he has been a tremendous help to me, not only in my coticule endeavors, but in perfecting my actual shave technique also. This latest video just adds to that..

I hold a flat angle also for my XTG work, but not down on the spine. Now I have another trick to try thanks to Gary's inspiration...

I can't wait to see Sir Ralfy's video, as he has also been a formidable mentor for my good self!
Better a diamond with a flaw than a polished pebble...
2011-09-29 22:47
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Dr Ralfson Bwhahaha (tat2Ralfy)
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iconBlacknTan:


I can't wait to see Sir Ralfy's video, as he has also been a formidable mentor for my good self!


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Pip Pip Old Bean
2011-09-29 22:50
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snuff
From: Belgium
Posts: 69
Great video, I'm sure it's going to help me to shave even better, thanks!
2011-09-30 07:53
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SlowRain
Posts: 27
A very nice video. Thank you very much.
2011-09-30 15:44
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Matt
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From: Poland
Posts: 1047
Again, it's stellar, thank you both!!

I won't be bothering y'all with the details, but yesterday I had the most comfortable (and yes, smooth too) shave ever! :thumbup:

best regards,
Matt
"Very interesting indeed :) I did something similar with cheese a while ago" - Dr Ralfson
2011-10-01 13:52
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danjared
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From: United States
Posts: 1000
iconMatt:
Again, it's stellar, thank you both!!

I won't be bothering y'all with the details, but yesterday I had the most comfortable (and yes, smooth too) shave ever! :thumbup:

best regards,
Matt


I barely watched the video while I was waiting in the airport yesterday. All I've got with me is my Gillette Tech until Sunday night. :(
2011-10-01 16:25
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gary haywood (garyhaywood)
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From: United Kingdom
Posts: 1678
iconMatt:
Again, it's stellar, thank you both!!

I won't be bothering y'all with the details, but yesterday I had the most comfortable (and yes, smooth too) shave ever! :thumbup:

best regards,
Matt


glad to hear that matt. what did you try differant? i don't mind hearing the details?
gary
gary haywood
2011-10-01 21:05
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Paul
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From: United States
Posts: 1388
I thought I was the only one who shaved under their lower lip with it relaxed. :P
Paul
"Focus on the journey, not the destination. Joy is found not in finishing an activity but in doing it" - Greg Anderson
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2011-10-01 21:35
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Matt
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From: Poland
Posts: 1047
icongaryhaywood:
glad to hear that matt. what did you try differant? i don't mind hearing the details?
gary


Well okay - it turned out that I could go flatter than I actually did. :) Now ATG is just like honing for me - I let the shape of my face guide the blade, there are always two points of contact, spine and the edge. I also started to do some more creative stretching as I call it, to go more appropriately with the growth direction - the worst part is on the neck just below the jawline, where stubble grows from the chin towards the ear, I followed Bart's long ago tip to stretch it up across the jawline and it does the trick. In general, also, now I try to stretch a bit less, just to keep skin taut enough not to move. And of course, minimal to zero pressure.

It's unbelievable how much room there is for improvement - still.

regards,
Matt
"Very interesting indeed :) I did something similar with cheese a while ago" - Dr Ralfson
2011-10-02 21:13
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cyclelu
From: United States
Posts: 72
Wonderful job Gentlemen!

Thank you for all the tips. Will try a flatter angle on my ATG next time.

Best Regards,
Lu
2011-10-03 02:46
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rtedwards
From: United States
Posts: 43
Gary,

Fantastic video, thanks for posting this. Your technique is so smooth and fluid it sets a new standard. I notice that you have no hesitation about going repeatedly over a section that has no visible lather. I've seen posts, and have a friend who has been straight shaving for many years who agrees, that state that you should never go over a section more than once before relathering. Yet I have found that to get a smooth shave I need to do repeated strokes, preferably from different angles, and I don't bother to relather each time. It would take way too long. In the DE realm I think the technique is called "buffing". I have sensitive skin but I can't really tell a difference as far as irritation goes, my skin is still slippery from the remaining soap even after the visible bubbles are gone.

Any thoughts on why some guys think the razor should never touch unlathered skin and have you found a difference in irritation with you, or guys you shave, with repeated versus single strokes at a give location? A barbers manual I borrowed from my barber stated clearly that you should start in the bare area and stroke into the lathered section as a matter of routine technique. There is a big emphasis on making a rich, thick lather on some of the boards, but I have found it mostly pointless to build a lot of lather up above the zone immediately next to my skin, it is where the edge meets the skin that matters- and that seems to happen at a very small scale, at least with a straight where there is no safety bar or comb that needs to be lubricated to glide smoothly.
Rick Edwards
2011-11-01 15:44
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clovis
Posts: 50
Whatever works for you my friend is "right". Personally I prefer lathers that are no too dry (rich, thick etc) as a little water helps lube.
2011-11-01 15:53
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rtedwards
From: United States
Posts: 43
My preference as well. I wet my face before each relathering (I face lather) to make it as moist as it can be without dripping. And I find that with a wet, thinner lather, my skin is still slippery after the first stroke. Clearly a very thin layer of soap is still there and it does its job as well as the thick white stuff. It is the water that makes soap slippery, a dry puck of soap isn't slippery at all. And it is the soap that breaks the surface tension and makes the water slippery.
Rick Edwards
2011-11-01 16:25
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Emmanuel Giannoulakis (Emmanuel)
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From: Greece
Posts: 942
Gary and Joe Just now i saw as first time your video my friends. (When shared i was absent)Excellent,excellent,excellent. It reminds me my shaving strategy and motions. Low angle ,no pressure
no over stretch .The only different i noticed is ,when i like to stretch my cheeks i do it by inflating or in mustache area i stretch by my tongue. Maybe is greek mode.
Finally ,one more time, the shave is amazing.
Best regards
Emmanuel

thank you emanuel,

because i was being filmed, it may sound weird but i was'nt as relaxed, and shaved quiker than normal , at least its good to watch some one else, every one has there own way of doing things. I don't normaly shave against the grain btw. I did just for the video, it was a very close shave i must say.

thanxs gary
Emmanuel Giannoulakis
from Athens Greece
2011-11-01 16:42
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Tracer
Posts: 11
Wow, great video.
Thanks for showing, great beginners help!
2011-11-01 19:26